.Requests may double for concealed-weapons permits
TAMPA - More Floridians want to carry a gun these days. A lot more.
Applications for concealed-weapons permits are on pace to double last year's number, with more than 20,000 people making requests in July alone. It's the biggest surge this decade, the state said.
But it's nothing to worry about, the agency that processes the requests said.
"You're talking about law-abiding citizens … as opposed to criminals, who don't have concealed-weapons permits," said Terry McElroy, spokesman in Tallahassee for the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services.
But talk to some of the people who hold the permits and you will learn they have worries.
"People are angry and desperate," said Sandra Charbonier, 59, of Tampa, who holds a permit. "You watch the news and see people very stressed out."
Crime rates don't explain the rush to pack heat, said Robert Batey, a professor at Stetson University College of Law in St. Petersburg.
Crime has gone up slightly since last summer, based on rough data available, but not as much as predicted with the recession, Batey said.
"The crimes that have risen the most — for example, identity theft and related forms of fraud — are not crimes that a gun will help to prevent," he said.
Whatever the state of the nation, McElroy said, people who choose to chat with state license processors give explanations that fall into three broad areas: the economy, the desire to carry a gun in the car and concerns about new federal controls.
"Since the change in the makeup of Congress and the administration, there has been a concern on the part of some, rightly or wrongly, that there may be a gradual crackdown or curtailment of gun rights," McElroy said.
First-time buyers
The rise in permit applications confirms a growing interest in gun ownership, which dates to the recent rise of Democrats in Congress and the White House.
Joe Petrella, owner of Take Aim in Pinellas Park, said he has watched demand grow and shrink during his 20 years selling weapons. He said it's higher than ever.
"We get these rushes," Petrella said. "It happened with hollow-point ammunition. It happened with assault weapons when they were talking about a ban."
Today, though, "it's been difficult to keep the store stocked. … Manufacturers are putting out as much as they can."
Bruce Kitzis of Shoot Straight in Tampa agreed that demand is up for all types of weapons. But the typical customer, Kitzis said, is someone seeking a handgun for home protection.
"I'm seeing lots of first-time buyers," he said.
Kitzis is also seeing more older people and women taking the classes that are required for a concealed-weapons permit.
Not everyone who gets the permit wants to slip a gun into a hidden holster or purse.
You need a concealed-weapons permit to drive with a gun to work or to take it just about anywhere for a purpose other than hunting or target shooting. Aside from the work requirement, a gun in your car is OK if it is "securely encased." Walking around with a gun showing, Wild West style, is prohibited in Florida.
Philip Fleming, 75, of Sun City Center got a concealed-weapons permit six years ago to protect him and his wife during trips to St. Petersburg and Tampa.
Lately, he has been thinking about what could happen in his house.
"I really think that if worse comes to worse, God forbid that that ever happens, you would need to have something to protect your home," he said.
Charbonier, the Tampa woman, didn't want a gun of any kind when she obtained a concealed-weapons permit years ago. But her father was worried about her safety and got one for her.
She kept her .32-caliber revolver at home, she said. Now she's considering driving with it. "You hear about road rage and all this stuff."
Three out of every 100 people in Florida have a permit — 608,000 total. In Hillsborough County, 2.5 people out of every 100 hold a permit. The numbers vary widely from county to county, though.
On the high end, six people per 100 hold permits in Dixie County, at the mouth of the Suwanee River in the Big Bend area. The low end is next door in Gilchrist County, where one out of a 100 people holds a permit.
Among Florida's five most-populous counties, only Palm Beach exceeds the state average. In the Bay area, permits per capita are highest in Hernando, with 4.2 people having them per 100.
From January through July, Floridians applied for 96,000 concealed weapons permits statewide, compared with 90,331 in all of 2008. At that pace, the number of 2009 applications will be more than twice the number in 2008.
With a backlog of tens of thousands of applications, the state Agriculture Department recently asked for money to temporarily hire 61 additional workers.
Demand up everywhere
Requests for weapons permits are rising across the country. The Texas Department of Public Safety says it is hiring temporary workers to help process a surge in applications. Oklahoma, like Florida, reports a near doubling of applications.
Concealed-weapons laws vary from state to state, an issue that gained attention in Congress this summer with an effort to allow any permit holder to carry a concealed weapon in any state. The measure never gained traction.
As it is, a Florida permit holder can carry a concealed weapon in 31 states under state-to-state reciprocity agreements. In addition, nearly 62,000 people from other states hold Florida concealed-weapons permits.
Florida, like most states, does not ask why you're applying for a permit. Private investigators, security guards and repossession agents carry guns under a separate licensing process, said state spokesman McElroy, so holders of concealed-weapons permits "are, for lack of a better term, mainly laypeople."
To get one, you submit an application through the mail or at one of seven offices of the state Division of Licensing, pay a $118 fee and take the class. The permit is good for five years.
Just 1 percent of people seeking a new permit or a renewal were rejected in fiscal 2008-09. During the same period, 3,600 people of the more than 600,000 holders had their permits revoked or suspended. A permit is suspended for those charged with a felony or any crime of violence, or if an injunction for domestic violence is issued. With a conviction, it's revoked.
Since 2006, after action by the Legislature, those who hold concealed-weapons permits remain secret. The Division of Licensing last month rejected a public records request from The Tampa Tribune for any information about permit holders — including age, gender and ZIP code — except the date a permit was issued.
Larry Chase of Tampa obtained his permit several years ago, so his name appears on the last list available to the public. Chase thought he might get into security work but never did, and never bought a gun because he has children at home.
He's not sure why so many people are trying to get permits now, but he suspects a conspiracy by those in the gun business.
"Maybe they say, 'Let's float this idea that the Democrats are going to take all the guns out of our hands,'" Chase said. "Then it gets stirred up and repeated, and people decide they need to get a gun."
There are no moves afoot publicly by the top leaders in Florida or Washington to impose new restrictions.
But Kitzis at Shoot Straight hears it, too.
"There's always a million rumors over what is going to change. It depends on which rumor mill you wish to listen to," he said.
Chase may not buy into the rumors, but he's hanging on to his permit. He renewed it in April.
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Applications for concealed-weapons permits are on pace to double last year's number, with more than 20,000 people making requests in July alone. It's the biggest surge this decade, the state said.
But it's nothing to worry about, the agency that processes the requests said.
"You're talking about law-abiding citizens … as opposed to criminals, who don't have concealed-weapons permits," said Terry McElroy, spokesman in Tallahassee for the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services.
But talk to some of the people who hold the permits and you will learn they have worries.
"People are angry and desperate," said Sandra Charbonier, 59, of Tampa, who holds a permit. "You watch the news and see people very stressed out."
Crime rates don't explain the rush to pack heat, said Robert Batey, a professor at Stetson University College of Law in St. Petersburg.
Crime has gone up slightly since last summer, based on rough data available, but not as much as predicted with the recession, Batey said.
"The crimes that have risen the most — for example, identity theft and related forms of fraud — are not crimes that a gun will help to prevent," he said.
Whatever the state of the nation, McElroy said, people who choose to chat with state license processors give explanations that fall into three broad areas: the economy, the desire to carry a gun in the car and concerns about new federal controls.
"Since the change in the makeup of Congress and the administration, there has been a concern on the part of some, rightly or wrongly, that there may be a gradual crackdown or curtailment of gun rights," McElroy said.
First-time buyers
The rise in permit applications confirms a growing interest in gun ownership, which dates to the recent rise of Democrats in Congress and the White House.
Joe Petrella, owner of Take Aim in Pinellas Park, said he has watched demand grow and shrink during his 20 years selling weapons. He said it's higher than ever.
"We get these rushes," Petrella said. "It happened with hollow-point ammunition. It happened with assault weapons when they were talking about a ban."
Today, though, "it's been difficult to keep the store stocked. … Manufacturers are putting out as much as they can."
Bruce Kitzis of Shoot Straight in Tampa agreed that demand is up for all types of weapons. But the typical customer, Kitzis said, is someone seeking a handgun for home protection.
"I'm seeing lots of first-time buyers," he said.
Kitzis is also seeing more older people and women taking the classes that are required for a concealed-weapons permit.
Not everyone who gets the permit wants to slip a gun into a hidden holster or purse.
You need a concealed-weapons permit to drive with a gun to work or to take it just about anywhere for a purpose other than hunting or target shooting. Aside from the work requirement, a gun in your car is OK if it is "securely encased." Walking around with a gun showing, Wild West style, is prohibited in Florida.
Philip Fleming, 75, of Sun City Center got a concealed-weapons permit six years ago to protect him and his wife during trips to St. Petersburg and Tampa.
Lately, he has been thinking about what could happen in his house.
"I really think that if worse comes to worse, God forbid that that ever happens, you would need to have something to protect your home," he said.
Charbonier, the Tampa woman, didn't want a gun of any kind when she obtained a concealed-weapons permit years ago. But her father was worried about her safety and got one for her.
She kept her .32-caliber revolver at home, she said. Now she's considering driving with it. "You hear about road rage and all this stuff."
Three out of every 100 people in Florida have a permit — 608,000 total. In Hillsborough County, 2.5 people out of every 100 hold a permit. The numbers vary widely from county to county, though.
On the high end, six people per 100 hold permits in Dixie County, at the mouth of the Suwanee River in the Big Bend area. The low end is next door in Gilchrist County, where one out of a 100 people holds a permit.
Among Florida's five most-populous counties, only Palm Beach exceeds the state average. In the Bay area, permits per capita are highest in Hernando, with 4.2 people having them per 100.
From January through July, Floridians applied for 96,000 concealed weapons permits statewide, compared with 90,331 in all of 2008. At that pace, the number of 2009 applications will be more than twice the number in 2008.
With a backlog of tens of thousands of applications, the state Agriculture Department recently asked for money to temporarily hire 61 additional workers.
Demand up everywhere
Requests for weapons permits are rising across the country. The Texas Department of Public Safety says it is hiring temporary workers to help process a surge in applications. Oklahoma, like Florida, reports a near doubling of applications.
Concealed-weapons laws vary from state to state, an issue that gained attention in Congress this summer with an effort to allow any permit holder to carry a concealed weapon in any state. The measure never gained traction.
As it is, a Florida permit holder can carry a concealed weapon in 31 states under state-to-state reciprocity agreements. In addition, nearly 62,000 people from other states hold Florida concealed-weapons permits.
Florida, like most states, does not ask why you're applying for a permit. Private investigators, security guards and repossession agents carry guns under a separate licensing process, said state spokesman McElroy, so holders of concealed-weapons permits "are, for lack of a better term, mainly laypeople."
To get one, you submit an application through the mail or at one of seven offices of the state Division of Licensing, pay a $118 fee and take the class. The permit is good for five years.
Just 1 percent of people seeking a new permit or a renewal were rejected in fiscal 2008-09. During the same period, 3,600 people of the more than 600,000 holders had their permits revoked or suspended. A permit is suspended for those charged with a felony or any crime of violence, or if an injunction for domestic violence is issued. With a conviction, it's revoked.
Since 2006, after action by the Legislature, those who hold concealed-weapons permits remain secret. The Division of Licensing last month rejected a public records request from The Tampa Tribune for any information about permit holders — including age, gender and ZIP code — except the date a permit was issued.
Larry Chase of Tampa obtained his permit several years ago, so his name appears on the last list available to the public. Chase thought he might get into security work but never did, and never bought a gun because he has children at home.
He's not sure why so many people are trying to get permits now, but he suspects a conspiracy by those in the gun business.
"Maybe they say, 'Let's float this idea that the Democrats are going to take all the guns out of our hands,'" Chase said. "Then it gets stirred up and repeated, and people decide they need to get a gun."
There are no moves afoot publicly by the top leaders in Florida or Washington to impose new restrictions.
But Kitzis at Shoot Straight hears it, too.
"There's always a million rumors over what is going to change. It depends on which rumor mill you wish to listen to," he said.
Chase may not buy into the rumors, but he's hanging on to his permit. He renewed it in April.
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